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[Miller]

While watching videos of driving games online, I have been surprised that so many of the online driving game videos are recordings of the game being played, rather than of replays. I can see some of the reasons for that, but for me it has been something of a disappointment compared to watching replays, especially when it comes to games where the replay cameras can be manipulated.

Here are three old PlayStation games I liked a lot.

Demolition Racer

I was very fond of this one. I never bought it for PC because I was more into StarWars and most especially WWII once I started playing PC games. Demolition Racer had vehicle damage and cars burning and stuff. It also featured a replay. The vehicles in each race were unfortunately very much like one another, but there were a lot of them in each race, which was very nice.

In the following YouTube video, the player lands on top of another vehicle after taking a jump, which, in this game, resulted in the other vehicle being completely destroyed.

Vigilante 8 and V-8: Second Offense

No replay in these games, but lots of fun to play. I liked the cooperative aspect

[Nikusakken]

I had great moments with both Vigilante 8 games. I always prefered it over Twisted Metal III and 4. It had a better damage system, better gameplay and etc. I don't remember reading somewere if they were going to be released on Xbox Live. I only heard about a remake of it.

[bb_42001]

i would say GTA 1.. i knows its not really a racing game, but the closest thing i have, also i have had that PS1 game the longest

[squeaky]

I LOVED VIGILANTE 8! I wish they had made it for PC cuz that would have rocked. I used to play it through quest mode when I was like 6 and i got to like the last one and i couldnt finish it cuz it was too hard.

[cleone]

Twisted Metal 2-4, Vigilante V8, GTA 1 & 2, and Driver 1 & 2. Those were my favorites.

[Miller]

Did anyone play Vigilante-8 on XBox Live Arcade? I was watching some videos of that, and I thought it looked really pretty, except I do not care to see that much HUD stuff on the screen. I guess some people like a lot of numbers and text and icons all over the picture, but to me that is clutter blocking the real view. The less of that stuff there is the more I feel like I am in that game world, I guess. It looked like that was somewhat customizable, though. It seems like some videos of MP action showed nametags and colored triangles over cars and maybe some did not show that stuff. I definitely did not enjoy looking at the large arrows that come in from either side of the screen and meet up at the car you have targeted.

It was fun to watch the videos, though. Pretty sharp looking game. Shiny, colorful effects and cool smoke. Larger arenas than in the original games, I guess. New areas, too.

I went to eBay and bought a copy of Vigilante-8 for PS1 and played it. I was too much of a cheapskate to pay for the more expensive V-8 Second Offense, so I only bought the first one for like $6USD, including postage.

I thought the dashcam view in single player (full screen) had an instrument panel, but I guess not. That was still pretty cool having a steering wheel and a left hand on it that moved in conjunction with your steering commands. A steering wheel without the dashboard is a bit odd, though.

I had forgotten how similar the music is to the music in older Driver games. Some guitar rock and some jazz or whatever. They have a little dicso, of course and some spacy rock with symphony-type orchestrations.

While I played, I thought about how some games these days look almost photorealistic, but not very much of the buildings blow up and trees don't get destroyed. That's one excellent thing about these old V-8 games. Almost everything is destroyable, and huge craters form in the ground from explosions.

That was one of the first games I rented after buying a Playstation, that and V-8 Second Offense, in which there are power ups that make it possible to hover and tread water and stuff. After playing those games and Driver, I was kind of hard to please.

[Biscaynes]

I'll list all ps1 driving games that are worth playing.

Carmageddon (this carma for ps1 is ok, but yet not that good as the original for pc)

Vanishing Point

Demolition Racer (btw, from the creators of Test Drive)

Destruction Derby

Destruction Derby 2 (I cant believe you guys haven't mention Destruction Drerby series. It all started from Destruction Derby's: physics, damage modeling. The 2nd part was epic, especially the race in canyon!

Destruction Derby Raw (completely different from the previous two, that's because the developers aren't more Reflections)

Ford Racing (The one of the few being included in my list where cars dont get any visible damage. However handling is that accurate, what actually makes this game worth getting)

grand theft auto London 1969 (I prefer it to 1&2)

Grand Tour Racing '98 (a.k.a Total Drivin'. The races are held in different exotic countries, the races include Dakar, i think, I've also seen there Moscow very well represented. Very realistic collisions and handling but still no damage)

Michelin Rally Masters (The best ps1 rally game ever! I even prefer it to Colin McRae)

TNN Hardcore 4x4 (It was the first game to feature vehicles with independent suspension! A year of release: 1996. Thats my favorite off road game.)

TNN Motorsports Hardcore TR (featuring real-time damage and a number of different options that allow you to adjust suspension in many different ways)

C3 Racing (based on TNN Motorsports Hardcore TR. Same tracks, but instead of trucks we have common European cars)

Rally Cross (from the creators of Twisted Metal)

Rally Cross 2

The Italian Job (another gta 3 prototype like Midtown Madness, i mean, from the creators of gta)

NASCAR Thunder 2004 (massive crashes is the funniet thing to cause there)

Need for Speed - High Stakes

NFS Porsche (no doubt, best in series!)

Option Tuning Car Battle 2

Option Tuning Car Battle Spec R (this one is better, high level graphics and sounds, super realism, all kind of tuning, in my opinion this game is way better than Grand Torismo, even on ps2 it would look good)

other drifting games:

Super Technic Challenge

Shutokou Battle R

Grand Turismo 2

Peak Performance

Racing Lagoon

Side by Side Special

Initial D (I think you're all familiar with this)

Here comes Hollywood "driver" style dased games.

World's Scariest Police Chases (love this one)

Vigilante 8

Vigilante 8 - 2nd Offense

Twisted Metal 3

Thunder Truck Rally/ Monster Truck Rally (from the creators of DRIVER! No, I dont suggest this game for Driver fans. If you’re talking technically, vehicle dynamics, then no. That was a dissapointment. Although the level where you're crushing cars is funny.)

Test Drive series (except Off Road. Test Drive Off Road is sh*t. How is that's off road if there's no actual SUSPENSION Although in the last (third) there was something bearing a faint resemblance on suspension)

Runabout/Felony 11-79

Runabout 2

Ever played Super Runabout San Francisco Edition (Dreamcast)? http://rutube.ru/tracks/2889962.html?v= ... d1d2f3e24c

Now, from the creators of ToCa Race Driver, Colin McRae Rally:

Toca Championship Racing

Toca - Touring Car Challenge 2

Colin McRae Rally 2.0

Stock Car Racing/ Jarret & Labonte Racing (rated as the ps1 game with the most realistic damage)

Rarest:

Buckle Up! (Very funny free roam game. Japanese or Chinese, i don't know. A small town bearing a faint resemblance on Miami. You drive a Monster Truck being chased by American police cruisers smashing them if necessary.)

All these games are tested on psx-psp emulator by me and are 100% playable. Check 'em out!

[Miller]

Wow, did you play all of those games, man? Thanks for the list.

I never tried Carmageddon, but I liked that it had killable pedestrians. I was surprised to see that in other countries besides my own the blood was green and it was aliens you were running over or something instead of humans.

I liked this one PS1 game that let you run over pedestrians. It would make a bloody smear on the road. Back then I thought that was something special. Absolutely delightful. You could activate some cheat that would make a little spirit thing float up into the sky after they died. I do not recall the name of the game. Your car had weapons on it.

I was glad I bought a PS1 and that N64 thing (both about 10 years ago). After a while I found out that the PC versions of the same games I had for PlayStation had higher quality and more content. After I got a PC, I was like, "Wow, so this this is where all the blood is. Coooool, man." I was really enjoying that PCs had so many WWII games and that a grenade would blow a person apart and stuff. Funny.

...I do not care to see that much HUD stuff on the screen. I guess some people like a lot of numbers and text and icons all over the picture, but to me that is clutter blocking the real view. The less of that stuff there is the more I feel like I am in that game world, I guess.

That looks like a dumb thing to say if the HUD elements are contributing to the creation of the so-called "game world" mentioned. Who wrote that anyway?

[Biscaynes]

I used to search for any info (youtube, database) about ps1 driving games and download link for each one than convert it into psp format since I've never had psone. Some I played intending to pass others just tried, they all worked perfectly tho.

To be honest, I don't like games with much gore. No, I'm completely indifferent to such games. I guess this is a particular reason why Driver 2 seems to me ideal. ...or almost ideal. When I first played it I was like: "is there a huge car dump, i wonder ? I bet there should be one..." Why was I shure? It's due to that kind of hollywoodish nature of the game. So I was very dissapointed I couldn't find any. I remember having good time with the one in Vice City))

The psone's Carmageddon region is Pal and the blood is green. Pedestrians are also supposed to be zombies, and, yea, among zombies there are aliens. Strange.

I've never come across the game you described. Hopefully my psp is taken away, and I'll never make a comeback to such archeology. I've had enough of it.

[Miller]

While not driving games, I really loved those Medal of Honor WWII games for the PlayStation. I had never seen anything like that in a game before. I tripped out when I saw all the amazing things people were creating to enhance the first MoH game for PC.

My favorite blood effect was a user-created mod for Medal of Honor: Allied Assault. All it did was put a few small red spots on the wall behind a dude when he got shot if there was a wall there. Quite a lot of the blood effects I have seen in both video games and cartoons seem just plain ludicrous to me. I think Daltarin-Elite did not like blood in video games at all. It offended him or something.

I thought a good suggestion for the next Driver game in the related topic was having windshield (windscreen or whatever) wipers, and when they wiped blood from a hit pedestrian this would only smear the blood around and block your view even more while you drive. Only windshield wiper fluid would remove the blood on the windshield, so you had to be careful about both hitting pedestrians and using washer fluid if you want to see where you are going. Of course, you need to be able to switch on the gore and have a dash camera view for it. I could enjoy that in the Driver game.

I guess I am off the topic. Sorry.

One of the games mentioned above that I liked a lot on PlayStation One was that Demolition Racer, which I enjoyed because it showed vehicle damage and the cars caught on fire or even blew up (like when you landed directly on top of an opponent after taking a jump). I also thought that game was cool because it allowed you to watch replays of the races.