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By Olanov
#52436
Well, the situation here is the police had already recieved calls by a fightened postal worker about a roaming dog in the area, on the workers postal route. That postal worker specifically reported an aggressive dog.

The LEO first tried to lure it towards the squad car with a dog pole, unsuccesfully so as it went further away and began barking. The officer called for backup after the dog started rocking back and forth, which is when he believed the dog could resort to aggression, trying to bite him, cause physical harm. That lead him to draw the service weapon and put her down. The officer wasn't even pursuing the dog, instead, following by walking towards her cautiously.
Police officers aren't that highly trained to work with animals to begin with, and it can be very had to guess what the animal will do next. They jump from one thing to another.

You may not like it, but it is not illegal in cases such as this.
T.K. wrote:I regularly read stories of US law enforcement killing people for the sake of bloodlust and then screaming "B-B-B-B-BUT HE ATTACKED ME FIRST I SWEAR". It's disgusting, inexcusable, and outright illegal.
Give me some examples of cases like this, I'm intrigued.

Regarding militarization, it's about officer safety more than anything. USA already has a high rate of violent crimes, and they've began more violent towards Law Enforcement agencies also. The risks with the job are on the rise, and so is the tension in these agencies. I like how there was an article saying something like US police roll around the city with military grade tanks and stuff, they're exaggerating it so bad it's not even funny.

Interesting article regarding militarization by the way: http://www.policeone.com/Officer-Safety ... e-opinion/

Here's especially one of the parts that point out a lot of flaws in many of the complaints you often hear regarding police militarization. In fact, there's a whole lot more restrictions in law enforcement right now than there has been ever before, controlling LE authorities. One thing I'm enjoying is the amount of body cameras used by law enforcement, which is on the rise.
The use of specialized equipment and protective gear by firefighters, athletes, and race car drivers is seen as a logical response to potential hazards. The cop who uses a helmet, rifle rated body armor, and an AR-15 to deal with dangerous criminals is deemed guilty of “overkill.”
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By Fab2cent
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#52437
Olanov wrote:Well, the situation here is the police had already recieved calls by a fightened postal worker about a roaming dog in the area, on the workers postal route. That postal worker specifically reported an aggressive dog.

The LEO first tried to lure it towards the squad car with a dog pole, unsuccesfully so as it went further away and began barking. The officer called for backup after the dog started rocking back and forth, which is when he believed the dog could resort to aggression, trying to bite him, cause physical harm. That lead him to draw the service weapon and put her down. The officer wasn't even pursuing the dog, instead, following by walking towards her cautiously.
Police officers aren't that highly trained to work with animals to begin with, and it can be very had to guess what the animal will do next. They jump from one thing to another.

You may not like it, but it is not illegal in cases such as this.
T.K. wrote:I regularly read stories of US law enforcement killing people for the sake of bloodlust and then screaming "B-B-B-B-BUT HE ATTACKED ME FIRST I SWEAR". It's disgusting, inexcusable, and outright illegal.
Give me some examples of cases like this, I'm intrigued.

Regarding militarization, it's about officer safety more than anything. USA already has a high rate of violent crimes, and they've began more violent towards Law Enforcement agencies also. The risks with the job are on the rise, and so is the tension in these agencies. I like how there was an article saying something like US police roll around the city with military grade tanks and stuff, they're exaggerating it so bad it's not even funny.

Interesting article regarding militarization by the way: http://www.policeone.com/Officer-Safety ... e-opinion/

Here's especially one of the parts that point out a lot of flaws in many of the complaints you often hear regarding police militarization. In fact, there's a whole lot more restrictions in law enforcement right now than there has been ever before, controlling LE authorities. One thing I'm enjoying is the amount of body cameras used by law enforcement, which is on the rise.
The use of specialized equipment and protective gear by firefighters, athletes, and race car drivers is seen as a logical response to potential hazards. The cop who uses a helmet, rifle rated body armor, and an AR-15 to deal with dangerous criminals is deemed guilty of “overkill.”
Thats what the pound is for, its for dogs to be taken out of the streets due to them causing danger. It makes it even worse that this police officer didn't have the brains to call the pound and wait in his car, instead he shot it and moved on, he cant be inconvenienced right? there is no defense for this sort of behavior. The officer shouldn't use his gun to kill something that is obviously afraid.
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By Olanov
#52438
No need to quote the whole post, a lot of the stuff was irrelevant to that subjct.

Anyway, if he wouldn't have taken action and the dog went and did something he probably would've gotten sued anyway. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised. To be honest, I'd be more scared to lose my job in the USA than almost anything else.
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By Fab2cent
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#52439
Yer, but why not mace the dog or use a taser on them! police have to have some physical training so after the tase or macing grab the dog
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By Olanov
#52440
You mace the dog and you'll piss it off even further, possibly causing aggression. Seems to apply on a lot of human subjects, mainly those who are on drugs, though. So it's very risky and ulikely to actually even work.

One of the things I also thought was a taser, however, that'd be so risky as well. Maybe if another officers were covering him with a weapon, other than that, no. If the taser was to fail or be ineffective, he'd lack other defensive weapons at the time being. So like I said, it's risky and he had his hands full as well. Dog pole in the other hand, service pistol in the other due to it being the best suitable mean of self defense for the situation considering he had no cover. Another chance is he wasn't even carrying a taser. As amazing it is, not all officers are yet equipped with them, though, they should but it takes money like a whole lot of other things.
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By Olanov
#52447
Possibly. I'm not an expert with tasers and dogs. What I know for certain it's easy to miss and it won't be a picnic after that happens or it's ineffective.
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By pete
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#52465
I just tried it. Didn't kill the damn thing, but at least got it to shut up for a few minutes.

I REALLY DON'T LIKE DOGS.
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By VAIMAHDO
#52469
PostalDude wrote:
pete wrote:I just tried it. Didn't kill the damn thing, but at least got it to shut up for a few minutes.

I REALLY DON'T LIKE DOGS.
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Dat... Dog O)_(O
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By 0takumetalhead
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#52484
pete wrote:I just tried it. Didn't kill the damn thing, but at least got it to shut up for a few minutes.

I REALLY DON'T LIKE DOGS.
You're a cat in disguise :O
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By Fireboyd78
#52572
New hard drive is one the way! I ordered a Western Digital Black 750GB 7200RPM SATA 6.0gbp/s. Should be good! Then I can finally get back to programming :D
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By VAIMAHDO
#52576
CarLuver69 wrote:New hard drive is one the way! I ordered a Western Digital Black 750GB 7200RPM SATA 6.0gbp/s. Should be good! Then I can finally get back to programming :D
Awesome! I'm glad to hear this!
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By max.thunder
#52586
CarLuver69 wrote:New hard drive is one the way! I ordered a Western Digital Black 750GB 7200RPM SATA 6.0gbp/s. Should be good! Then I can finally get back to programming :D
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By VAIMAHDO
#52614
That was absolutly awesome! I think it was worth it. Dude, when I was younger, I had made pretty poor videos and spent soo much time on them. This video was awesome no doubt (Y) I think after I release The Driver Parody Teaser video, I will make some Driver 2 video of what this video could use to make it better. The sounds mainly made it more enjoyable (Y)
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By Fireboyd78
#52665
Hard drive came in today! Currently installing Windows 7. Next time I post will be from there (hopefully)!
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By Fireboyd78
#52667
Windows 7 installed! Now I just need to get settled in and install all of my sh*t again...good to be back though!
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By VAIMAHDO
#52670
CarLuver69 wrote:Windows 7 installed! Now I just need to get settled in and install all of my sh*t again...good to be back though!
Yeah! I feel into luck too! I found the parts for my strong computer, and am about to upgrade the RAM, power supply, and give it a video card! (If I can find a processor above 3.00ghz then that too! :)
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By Fab2cent
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#52673
CarLuver69 wrote:Windows 7 installed! Now I just need to get settled in and install all of my sh*t again...good to be back though!
FINALLY. u deserve some good times man hahah..good luck with getting everything installed glad to hear the good news
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By Fireboyd78
#52679
Skylabh wrote:Good news. So back to programing.
I haven't programmed in a month so I have no idea where I left off, haha. Gonna take awhile to get back in the flow of things.
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By Skylabh
#52685
CarLuver69 wrote:I haven't programmed in a month so I have no idea where I left off, haha. Gonna take awhile to get back in the flow of things.
If i'm not mistaken, you were in the process of rewriting the GUI into WPF.
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By Fireboyd78
#52704
Skylabh wrote:
CarLuver69 wrote:I haven't programmed in a month so I have no idea where I left off, haha. Gonna take awhile to get back in the flow of things.
If i'm not mistaken, you were in the process of rewriting the GUI into WPF.
After looking at everything, this seems to be the case. Managing such a huge toolset isn't easy, lol.
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