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[madness]

Shortly GTAIV was recently announced to be delayed until somewhere around mid 2008 their not quite sure but there thinking about somewhere around the 2nd quarter of the fiscal year.

Now doesn't this remind me of something reflections did to DRIV3R and then Atari forced them to release it unfinished as a mangled wreak. Will Take-Two be forced to do the same with GTA-IV who knows... but it's a possibility as it's the first time this has happened to a GTA game before.

Grand Theft Auto IV delayed to 2008

Take-Two pushes back blockbuster to next year, saying "time-intensive" nature of dual-platform development; annual earnings estimate plummets by over $200 million.

By Tor Thorsen, GameSpot
Posted Aug 3, 2007 7:04 am GMT +9

The overcrowded monkey house that was the 2007 holiday release schedule lost one of its 800-pound gorillas today. Without warning, this afternoon Take-Two Interactive stunned the game industry by announcing it was delaying Grand Theft Auto IV to the second quarter of its 2008 fiscal year, which begins on February 1, 2008. Published by Take-Two subsidiary Rockstar Games, the crime-action title had been slated to ship for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 in North America on October 16, 2007.

"Certain elements of development proved to be more time-intensive than expected, especially given the commitment for a simultaneous release on two very different platforms," said Take-Two chairman Strauss Zelnick in a statement.

Unsurprisingly, not having GTA IV in its 2007 fiscal-year lineup has put a serious dent in Take-Two's earnings expectations. The company's guidance is now for net revenue of $950 million to $1.0 billion for the 12 months ending October 31, and a loss of $1.25 to $1.35 per share. That figure is over $200 million lower than prior estimates of $1.2 billion to $1.25 billion in annual revenue--which would have been "break even results" according to the company's second-quarter earnings statement. With the AO-rated Manhunt 2 on indefinite hold, Take-Two now expects net revenue between $275 million to $300 million for its fourth fiscal quarter, with a net loss of $0.05 to $0.10 per share.

"Obviously, we are very disappointed to reduce guidance after having previously reaffirmed it," said Take-Two CEO Ben Feder. "Other than a matter of timing, the movement of Grand Theft Auto IV does not compromise Take-Two in any way. We are in sound financial condition and have a great product lineup."

I think to myself " "" "" "
I kind of hope they screw it up once. Teach them a little lesson.

[Sedans]

dammit!!!! I wanted to get it for my birthday! Everything screws up for me

[madness]

Well in reality I'd like to try a game a little more realistic like "GTA IV" well at least it's looking very realistic and now they delay it. That's what happened with driv3r.

Anyways they might have more finical support with the game. It's such a large series they'd probably take as long as they can to finish the game. However with shareholders losing lots and the company's slowly climbing down hill I don't think they'll get too far.

These days I'm not sure what to think, gta being a super unrealistic game and then all of a sudden it's quite realistic it just doesn't make sense. So the developers don't know what there doing and have to delay it. They might as well ditch the project and go back to it's roots being a 2D game.

[Sedans]

well its hard to find GTA style games with good graphics but I did find the game Saints Row with awesome graphics but terrible story if SA had SRs graphics and small ammount of glitches the game would almost be perfect so I guess you have to put plenty of time into stuff like that.

[Moonchild]

Well, it's no surprise that the game has been delayed, but it's funny to see all the internet fanboys going crazy over this. I mean, it's only a 3-4 month delay, GTA IV won't turn into Duke Nukem Forever or something.

The differnece between this delay and Driv3r's delay is the fact that the publishing company made the decision to give the development some extra time. Plus, GTA IV has only been in development for like 2 years and that's minimal compared to D3...

These days I'm not sure what to think, gta being a super unrealistic game and then all of a sudden it's quite realistic it just doesn't make sense. So the developers don't know what there doing and have to delay it. They might as well ditch the project and go back to it's roots being a 2D game.

Don't know where your getting this realistic thing from but the truth is probally the opposite. The graphics look better but the facial animations are still ugly and the game itself will play similarily to previous installments. The only real difference that I heard was the the game driving will be similar to Midnight Club. Which is still not Driver realistic.

The reason for the delay is probally because of hardware issues. The PS3 version is a few weeks behind in development and the 360 version provides the problem of fitting the game onto one disc. Plus, their ironing out things like framerate, pop-in, colision detection etc.

Finally, I wonder if this will change Ubisoft's decision. I kinda had the suspicion that Ubi was waiting for GTA IV to release before they officialy announced the next-gen Driver. Now, do Ubi announce it soon or wait till Feb-March 2008...

[Sedans]

well ill put this short simple and to the point: GTA is a company that is master a story and started with the whole "shoot em up and steal dey car" kinda thing but R* is still a toy with their cutseens and their animation car damage still needs serious improvement. So UBI probably wanted to see how IV turned out before tgey put out anything

[Moonchild]

well ill put this short simple and to the point

That supposed to mean something?

Rockstar North is the team responsible for game and the story...but their's no way in hell that there the master's of storytelling. Insead, their the master's of bulls**t and poor plot conectivity. The cutscenes are ugly because their all in-game and not pre-rendered. Have you seen the in-game cutscenes of DPL, thier worse than San Andreas...but yeah, animation and car damage need work and that'll probally be fixed in IV. As for UBI, I don't know what the hell their doing. They have done nothing but further tarnish the Driver franchise...

[Sedans]

what the hell no I was just saying why are you getting so defensive?? I'm mean jeez

[DRIV3RDOOD]

Everyone shut up, and i'll explain something, there are many rumors of why GTA IV Delayed, some of them being that if Rockstar released GTA IV in October that there would still be many glitches, another rumor being that it was delayed becuase of the PS3. Of course you guys are going to go "Haha i hope GTA IV fails Driver is better"

[madness]

Everyone shut up, and i'll explain something, there are many rumors of why GTA IV Delayed, some of them being that if Rockstar released GTA IV in October that there would still be many glitches, another rumor being that it was delayed becuase of the PS3. Of course you guys are going to go "Haha i hope GTA IV fails Driver is better"

Well not really, It has also been confirmed no one knows what happened to delay the game and if anything it was more of a development issue because they haven't told everyone why.

But if they need more time, they should get it... all game developers should to release a more stable product. Unfortunately this little problem got straight in the way of driv3r and Atari didn't have enough money to continue funding it so it was released as what some people call a mangled wreak.

shares at the moment are really bad for take-two interactive, so I think gta-iv may not do as well as intended. It'll probaly get around what GTA:LVS and VCS got around the 8 out of 10 marks.