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I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:43 am
by max.thunder
Taken from http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/60scars.html
In 1960 the average income per year (USA) was $5,315.00 and by 1969 was $8,540.00

Alfa Romeo Duetto Spider $3,950 1968

Austin Healey 3000 $3,400 1960

Austin Healey Sprite $2,050 1967

BMW 2002 $4,200 1969

Buick Riviera $4,300 1963

Buick Skylark GS $2,596 1966

Buick Le Sabre $3,356 1969

Cadillac De Ville $5,427 1965

Cadillac Elderado $7,401 1960

Cadillac Elderado $6,605 1968

Chevrolet Biscayne $2,230 1960

Chevrolet Camaro SS $2,588 1968

Chevrolet Corvair Monza $2,335 1964

Chevrolet Corvette $4,589 1963

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray $4,438 1969

Chevrolet Impala Super Sport $3,210 1965

Chevrolet Malibu $2,156 1965

Chrysler New Yorker $5,680 1963

Chrysler Town and Country Wagon $4,086 1967

Chrysler Valiant $2,056 1960

Chrysler Valiant Barracuda $2,862 1966

Comet ( Lincoln Mercury ) $2,375 1964

Comet Cyclone GT ( Lincoln Mercury ) $3,290 1968

Dodge Coronet V8 Club Coupe $2,595 Ohio 1962

Dodge 330 Series 2 dr Sedan $2,245 1963

Dodge Coronet 440 $2,264 1966

Dodge Charger $3,469 1966

Dodge Dart Pioneer $2,787 1961

Dodge Dart GT $3,065 1968

Dodge Lancer 4 dr Sedan $2,312 1961

Ford Bronco 4 Wheel Drive $2499 1966

Ford Fairlane $2,154 1963

Ford Fairlane $2195 1966

Ford Fairlane Toreno $3,156 1968

Ford Falcon $1,974 1961

Ford Falcon $2118 1966

Ford Falcon Futura $2,437 1967

Ford Galaxie $2,450 1962

Ford Galaxie 500 $2,881 1968

Ford Galaxie Convertible $2368 1966

Ford Mustang 2 door hardtop $2368 1966

Ford Mustang Shelby GT $3,995 1968

Ford Thunderbird $4,468 1965

Ford T Bird $3774 1966

Ford 100 Pickup $1795 1966

Jaguar Series II E Type Roadster $5,870 1967

Jenson Interceptor $9,570 1968

Lincoln Continental $6,270 1963

Lotus Elan $4,206 1964

Mercury Cougar $2,851 1967

Mercury Monterey 4 door $2,965 Washington 1964

Mercury Montclair $2,631 1960

MG MGB Roadster $2.659 1963

MG Midget $1,939 1963

MG Midget MK III $2,252 1968

Oldsmobile "98" Town sedan $3,399 New Jersey 1966

Oldsmobile Cutlass $2.713 1961

Oldsmobile, Jetstar 88 $3,035 1964

Oldsmobile, Super 88 $2,835 1961

Oldsmobile Tornado $5,258 1968

Plymouth Belvedere Satellite $2,695 1966

Plymouth Fury $2,499 California 1961

Pontiac Bonneville $3,255 1961

Pontiac Bonneville $4,733 1969

Pontiac Catalina $3,149 Washington 1964

Pontiac Firebird $2,667 1967

Pontiac GTO $3,227 1968

Pontiac Tempest $2,418 1963

Rambler American $2,150 1962

Rambler American $2,024 1968

Rambler Classic 4 door sedan $2,557 Washington 1964

Renault Dauphine $1,298 California 1961

Studebaker Daytona Sports $2,405 1965

Studebaker Lark $1935 1963

Triumph Spitfire $2,275 1963

Triumph TR3 Roadster $2,699 California 1961

Triumph TR4 A $2,840 1965

Triumph TR6 $3,275 1966

Volkswagen Beetle $1,769 New York 1967

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:15 am
by RacingFreak
Yeah man, same nostalgic feeling I`m having now - with all these Austin, Jaguar, Fiat and bunch of classic cars I`m doing for MM2, I REALLY WANTED TO BE IN 60`S IN LONDON! And listening Beatles on live, hell yeah 8)

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:50 am
by bb_42001
problem with being in the 60's very little technology

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:53 am
by T.K.
And hippies.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:06 am
by Olanov
Communists.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:46 am
by PostalDude
Technology is ass. Cellphones and Ipods FTL.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:14 pm
by Harlequin
max.thunder wrote:
Taken from http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/60scars.html
In 1960 the average income per year (USA) was $5,315.00 and by 1969 was $8,540.00

Alfa Romeo Duetto Spider $3,950 1968

Austin Healey 3000 $3,400 1960

Austin Healey Sprite $2,050 1967

BMW 2002 $4,200 1969

Buick Riviera $4,300 1963

Buick Skylark GS $2,596 1966

Buick Le Sabre $3,356 1969

Cadillac De Ville $5,427 1965

Cadillac Elderado $7,401 1960

Cadillac Elderado $6,605 1968

Chevrolet Biscayne $2,230 1960

Chevrolet Camaro SS $2,588 1968

Chevrolet Corvair Monza $2,335 1964

Chevrolet Corvette $4,589 1963

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray $4,438 1969

Chevrolet Impala Super Sport $3,210 1965

Chevrolet Malibu $2,156 1965

Chrysler New Yorker $5,680 1963

Chrysler Town and Country Wagon $4,086 1967

Chrysler Valiant $2,056 1960

Chrysler Valiant Barracuda $2,862 1966

Comet ( Lincoln Mercury ) $2,375 1964

Comet Cyclone GT ( Lincoln Mercury ) $3,290 1968

Dodge Coronet V8 Club Coupe $2,595 Ohio 1962

Dodge 330 Series 2 dr Sedan $2,245 1963

Dodge Coronet 440 $2,264 1966

Dodge Charger $3,469 1966

Dodge Dart Pioneer $2,787 1961

Dodge Dart GT $3,065 1968

Dodge Lancer 4 dr Sedan $2,312 1961

Ford Bronco 4 Wheel Drive $2499 1966

Ford Fairlane $2,154 1963

Ford Fairlane $2195 1966

Ford Fairlane Toreno $3,156 1968

Ford Falcon $1,974 1961

Ford Falcon $2118 1966

Ford Falcon Futura $2,437 1967

Ford Galaxie $2,450 1962

Ford Galaxie 500 $2,881 1968

Ford Galaxie Convertible $2368 1966

Ford Mustang 2 door hardtop $2368 1966

Ford Mustang Shelby GT $3,995 1968

Ford Thunderbird $4,468 1965

Ford T Bird $3774 1966

Ford 100 Pickup $1795 1966

Jaguar Series II E Type Roadster $5,870 1967

Jenson Interceptor $9,570 1968

Lincoln Continental $6,270 1963

Lotus Elan $4,206 1964

Mercury Cougar $2,851 1967

Mercury Monterey 4 door $2,965 Washington 1964

Mercury Montclair $2,631 1960

MG MGB Roadster $2.659 1963

MG Midget $1,939 1963

MG Midget MK III $2,252 1968

Oldsmobile "98" Town sedan $3,399 New Jersey 1966

Oldsmobile Cutlass $2.713 1961

Oldsmobile, Jetstar 88 $3,035 1964

Oldsmobile, Super 88 $2,835 1961

Oldsmobile Tornado $5,258 1968

Plymouth Belvedere Satellite $2,695 1966

Plymouth Fury $2,499 California 1961

Pontiac Bonneville $3,255 1961

Pontiac Bonneville $4,733 1969

Pontiac Catalina $3,149 Washington 1964

Pontiac Firebird $2,667 1967

Pontiac GTO $3,227 1968

Pontiac Tempest $2,418 1963

Rambler American $2,150 1962

Rambler American $2,024 1968

Rambler Classic 4 door sedan $2,557 Washington 1964

Renault Dauphine $1,298 California 1961

Studebaker Daytona Sports $2,405 1965

Studebaker Lark $1935 1963

Triumph Spitfire $2,275 1963

Triumph TR3 Roadster $2,699 California 1961

Triumph TR4 A $2,840 1965

Triumph TR6 $3,275 1966

Volkswagen Beetle $1,769 New York 1967
...So, um... Why? It's the general percentage you'd be paying for a car now... It's no different.
Unless you are in to the old cars, and don't want to pay thousands of dollars for a Triumph Spitfire...

But I too find myself wanting to live in a different era... Except for the whole Women's Rights debacle... And the lack of technology... And the wars...
F**k, I'm happy here :)

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:24 pm
by max.thunder
Then, you could work only one year and buy a good brand new car like for example (Pontiac GTO $3,227 1968 or a Ford Mustang Shelby GT $3,995 1968) and now with one year of work here in Europe we can afford a Dacia Logan (hate that car), to buy a good thing we have to go to a second hand market of cars (but it isn't new).
Now those cars worth a lot of money, now you could became rich selling the cars which were sold during the 1973 oil crisis for a very cheap price(nobody wanted them because of the oil price)

If I had such a great car then i wouldn't need Driver games now because i would enjoy a lot with the REAL thing, not playing videogames. As for the technology i agree, there are some things that changed our lives, but in my opinion we can survive without a mobile phone, then was cool talking with walkie-talkies (and it was free).

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:26 pm
by RacingFreak
Get rid of that - cars and other things go for that :mrgreen:

And btw, I doubt todays world would be different without computers and that technology. Does it? Is 2012 true? :mrgreen:

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:32 pm
by max.thunder
In my opinion 2012 is a joke.
And cars will not change until we ran out of oil, in the 80s people thought than in 2000s cars would be flying (like in Back to the Future year 2015) but i think that the monopoly of oil companies buy all the patents about new technology of cars, they want to sell their oil until the end of production. I even heard about cars that work with water.

The guy who really could change all the automotive industry was Preston Tucker but the big three (GM, Ford and Chrysler) didn't allow to do that. (1948)
With this car
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It was really innovative, they even were going to put seatbelts in that car (the first seatbelts weren't included in a car until 1959).

Sad that this car wasn't in mass-prodution back then.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:33 pm
by Harlequin
max.thunder wrote:Then, you could work only one year and buy a good brand new car like for example (Pontiac GTO $3,227 1968 or a Ford Mustang Shelby GT $3,995 1968) and now with one year of work here in Europe we can afford a Dacia Logan (hate that car), to buy a good thing we have to go to a second hand market of cars (but it isn't new).
Now those cars worth a lot of money, now you could became rich selling the cars which were sold during the 1973 oil crisis for a very cheap price(nobody wanted them because of the oil price)

If I had such a great car then i wouldn't need Driver games now because i would enjoy a lot with the REAL thing, not playing videogames. As for the technology i agree, there are some things that changed our lives, but in my opinion we can survive without a mobile phone, then was cool talking with walkie-talkies (and it was free).
Yeah, but in fifty years, the (good) cars produced today will be in the same state? It doesn't really change.
In Australia today, it's about half a year's wages for a good, new car. I don't know what part of Europe you live in (because I can't be bothered checking), but you either have a very, very bad economy, or... You're wrong.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:37 pm
by max.thunder
In Spain the average income per year is 21.500 € per year but mostly people earn 12.000 € per year.
Yeah, we have bad economy now.
How goes the economy in Australia?

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:01 pm
by Harlequin
We have one of the best in the world. Better than the US at the moment. The average is a bit less than $70,000, but I don't know anyone not in a top job earning more than $60,000... And a good car is anywhere between $15,000 and $30,000...

And that's pretty horrible... That's actually less than what I make, and I don't have a full time job.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:14 pm
by max.thunder
OMG!
It would be good to go there, the only thing that i don't like about Australia is that you drive like in United Kingdom(left-hand traffic). It looks strange to me, but originally we had to drive all in left-hand traffic, it's because of Napoleon, he wanted to be different from UK (his enemy) and he adopted right-hand traffic to all countries that he invaded.
In the past, almost everybody travelled on the left side of the road because that was the most sensible option for feudal, violent societies. Since most people are right-handed, swordsmen preferred to keep to the left in order to have their right arm nearer to an opponent and their scabbard further from him. Moreover, it reduced the chance of the scabbard (worn on the left) hitting other people.

Furthermore, a right-handed person finds it easier to mount a horse from the left side of the horse, and it would be very difficult to do otherwise if wearing a sword (which would be worn on the left). It is safer to mount and dismount towards the side of the road, rather than in the middle of traffic, so if one mounts on the left, then the horse should be ridden on the left side of the road.
Here you can read more about it:
Why do some countries drive on the right and others on the left ?
Look what happened in Sweden (1967) when they changed from left-hand traffic to right-hand traffic
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About Spain: In a ordinary job (not very qualified, even without studies) you can earn probably 1000€ per month, if you have superior studies you can earn more than 1000€, maybe 1500€ or close to 2000€ per month.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:55 pm
by RacingFreak
LOL, these pictures remind me a lot of TIJ. SWEET, look at all these classic cars :D

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:57 pm
by max.thunder
It would be cool to see this with you own eyes. It was really an absolute chaos.

Also New York had a some kind of chaos in 1965, 14 hours without electricity (8 states of the east coast). Almost all activities stopped. People couldn't watch T.V, listen the radio,etc.
So what they've done?
There's an urban myth stating that the people started to having sex in that period without electricity causing the next year the famous Baby Boom in 1966
A sharp increase in births has been reported by several large hospitals here, 9 months after the 1965 blackout.

Mount Sinai Hospital, which averages 11 births daily, had 28 births on Monday. This was a record for the hospital; its previous one-day high was 18. At Bellevue there were 29 new babies in the nursery yesterday, compared with 11 a week ago and an average of 20.

Columbia Presbyterian averages 11 births daily and had 15 Monday; St. Vincent’s averages 7 and had 10; Brookdale averages 10 and had 13; and Coney Island averages 5 and had 8. However, New York and Brooklyn Jewish hospitals reported that their number of births was normal . . .

There were 16 babies at Mount Sinai yesterday, 13 at Columbia Presbyterian, and 10 at St. Vincent’s, all above average. The number of births was reported normal in Nassau and Suffolk counties, many of whose commuters were stranded in the city November 9, in Newark and Jersey City which were not affected, and in hospitals in Albany, Rochester, New Haven and Providence, where the lights went on in mid-evening.
Here you can read more about it (Wikipedia)
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Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:20 pm
by Harlequin
max.thunder wrote:OMG!
It would be good to go there, the only thing that i don't like about Australia is that you drive like in United Kingdom(left-hand traffic). It looks strange to me, but originally we had to drive all in left-hand traffic, it's because of Napoleon, he wanted to be different from UK (his enemy) and he adopted right-hand traffic to all countries that he invaded.

About Spain: In a ordinary job (not very qualified, even without studies) you can earn probably 1000€ per month, if you have superior studies you can earn more than 1000€, maybe 1500€ or close to 2000€ per month.
...We're a commonwealth country. We're a predominantly Anglo country, with Anglo ideals. Of course we're going to be like the UK.
...Except cleaner. In Adelaide. Not so much Sydney or Melbourne.
...I like clean places :)

And I earn $2000 a month... It's about 1500€, and that's one job, with only 20 hours a week... Pretty sh*t, man.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:24 pm
by max.thunder
OMG! I'm pretty impressed with Australia, maybe one day i will go to work there.
20 hours a week? In Spain people work minimum 40 hours(more qualified jobs) and 60 hours a week as the maximum.

I think that the climate is very good there, you probably now are in Summer 8)

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:44 pm
by Nikusakken
If I'm not wrong, here in Brazil the maximum is 40 hours a week. But obviously most people work more than that due to overtime.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:13 am
by Harlequin
max.thunder wrote:OMG! I'm pretty impressed with Australia, maybe one day i will go to work there.
20 hours a week? In Spain people work minimum 40 hours(more qualified jobs) and 60 hours a week as the maximum.

I think that the climate is very good there, you probably now are in Summer 8)
Nikusakken wrote:If I'm not wrong, here in Brazil the maximum is 40 hours a week. But obviously most people work more than that due to overtime.
It's 38 here, I think... I don't know, I've never had a full time job! But we have overtime and all too.
But the week before Christmas, I did 35 hours, and made only $500 :( Stupid tax & cash office girl who decided she couldn't wait until we'd finished work to calculate our hours :(

But for someone my age, I make pretty good money. I have friends who make half of what I do, but get the same kinds of hours. Sad, really.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:20 am
by bb_42001
At our my job for Christmas we got payed the thursday before christmas instead of after, and we got paid for the hours we did, we didn't loose out

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:16 pm
by Harlequin
I got paid Christmas Eve, but it meant I didn't get paid for the hours I actually worked, I got paid for about six or seven less. Bit disappointing.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:52 pm
by Biscaynes
TheOldGamer wrote:Yeah man, same nostalgic feeling I`m having now - with all these Austin, Jaguar, Fiat and bunch of classic cars I`m doing for MM2, I REALLY WANTED TO BE IN 60`S IN LONDON! And listening Beatles on live, hell yeah 8)
Hell yeah! Swinging London.


:| wtf
Sixties was heaven on earth. To talk about cars and lack of technology in a topic given that title is kind of strange...

Btw,
Technology addicted is like drug addicted. Moreover, today's man won't even survive without technology.
2012 is not a joke. Look around. The end doesn't have to be like somesing you see in hollywood movies)))
max.thunder wrote: Also New York had a some kind of chaos in 1965, 14 hours without electricity (8 states of the east coast). Almost all activities stopped. People couldn't watch T.V, listen the radio,etc.
So what they've done?
There's an urban myth stating that the people started to having sex in that period without electricity causing the next year the famous Baby Boom in 1966
A sharp increase in births has been reported by several large hospitals here, 9 months after the 1965 blackout.
LOL

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:20 am
by RacingFreak
I would half believe and half disagree about 2012. My agreement - misterious dieing of birds - I heard that in the news and it`s true.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:45 am
by Biscaynes
In Russia we had winter rain. As the result all trees were covered with ice. Many have fallen down, many won't live. Loads of areas stayed without electricity. There have been dark ages there.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:48 am
by RacingFreak
Also - In Bulgaria there was snowing only two times in November and once in December. And it`s sunning now, in Spring/Summer temperatures which IS STRANGE. It`s like in Australia, instead East Europe.

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:06 am
by Biscaynes

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:09 am
by RacingFreak
WIN :lol:

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:36 am
by max.thunder
I prefer more this kind of stuff, the film is one of my faves!
[youtube size=320X240]7_cnizIfYpg&feature=BF&list=UL_1rFipNtjr4&index=10[/youtube]

Re: I wish i lived in the 60s

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:42 am
by RacingFreak
Hell... I wish the game was based on the film. And, btw, if you lived in 60`s how come, you wouldn`t be able to watch film like that! Or even The Italian Job. I want era change to 70`s.